Rowan Niemisto never took classes in audio engineering. He graduated from Glen Lake High School in 2011, then the University of Michigan in 2015 with a bachelor’s in Sociology. But as a kid he was always fooling around and getting fatherly instructions in his dad Patrick Niemisto’s Holy Wah! Studio near Maple City. And now he engineers The New York Times podcast “The Daily” with hosts Michael Barbaro and Sabrina Tavernise. It is one of the most popular podcasts in the United States.

